Unfair Advantage Update

[Temper]

http://www.airattack.co.uk/portal/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=31386&p=341850#p341850

Members of Air Attack,

There has been much comment on the recent dvvd routine that was discovered and a lot of accusations and false comments made.
The admins have spent many hours looking through endless logs and data to determine the truth and answer questions that have been raised.

When was this first used?
The first recorded use was on the 24/03/09.

Who used the routine?
Thorn squad is the only team to have used it, no other single player or squad have been involved in the use of this routine.

Which individual players?
As stated above Thorn Squad and as Thorn squad fly as a Squad they take responsibility as a squad.

The Admins feel that Thorn used this to try and gain an advantage but did not forcibly interfere with the structure or controls of the game. Therefore no action will be taken against Thorn Squad or individual players by the Admins.

A detailed report will be sent to The LMs of any squad matches that this occurred in and it will be up to the LMs to decide on any action. I hope this now draws a line under this and we can all continue to play the game.

Thank you for your patience.

[Tbar]

THE END.

I hope.

[Firestorm]

something tells me this might hang around like a bad smell for a while yet......no closure for those that believe the accused should not go unpunished.

[Temper]

Fire, what punishment to you suggest?

[Firestorm]

Well after seeing the report from Wizard it fails to indicate all that were involved. Sure Thorn was mentioned but what about the others that knew of this and never mentioned it.

Lets just say I was a policeman and had been offered a bribe. Now what should I do?

Go to my superiors and tell them who offered me the bribe and let them wear the inevitable problems that will come from that action or keep quiet while promising not to say anything because the offender asked me not to and at worst, maybe even take the bribe.

The way I see it this "example" amounts to the very same scenario just put in a different environment.

As for punishment, naming has been done to most but not all. Birdy did the honorable things and gave up all his positions. He took this upon himself conserving his dignity and what is left of his credibility. Others have not and I think they need to take a long hard look at where their honesty lies and are they really "doing this for the game".

I feel there is a shroud of protection around some. Some that have done wrong and are getting away with it. This sets a bad example for younger players that see what has happened.

I personally find it hard to take a sysops seriously when they have hidden the dishonest actions of some instead of doing the right thing and reporting this.....it's inexcusable.

Unfortunately it leaves a sour taste in ones mouth knowing the very few honorable gents that police the game have a corrupt cop amoungst them.

[Temper]

As for punishment, naming has been done to most but not all.

For a list of names, go to the Thorn squad list on the CLP.

Bribes? Corrupt cops? Your analogy is way over the top m8. This is a game.

[H@wk]

As for punishment, naming has been done to most but not all.

For a list of names, go to the Thorn squad list on the CLP.

Bribes? Corrupt cops? Your analogy is way over the top m8. This is a game.

But even tho this is a game, there comes honesty, integrity and self esteem when put in a position of authority regardless what it is.

There will be no respect for anyone that used or even covered up the fact of knowing and not coming forward immediately. It makes the Sysops Squad look like a bunch of thugs protecting each other to the community.

[Temper]

As for punishment, naming has been done to most but not all.

For a list of names, go to the Thorn squad list on the CLP.

Bribes? Corrupt cops? Your analogy is way over the top m8. This is a game.

But even tho this is a game, there comes honesty, integrity and self esteem when put in a position of authority regardless what it is.

There will be no respect for anyone that used or even covered up the fact of knowing and not coming forward immediately. It makes the Sysops Squad look like a bunch of thugs protecting each other to the community.

I take it if you give someone your word, you would not honor it? Remember, you have no idea what you are about to be told.

[Inferno]

The fact that someone gives their word to another does not relinquish them of their responsibilities whether moral/legal etc. If they do not speak out of an infraction then they too are guilty. Thats just a basic concept of the law and society. They are succeptable to the punishemnt just the same.

Giving your word is a weak argument.

And Unfortunately it is not just a game for all.

It shouldnt be "just a Game" to people who have put in position of being a "gatekeeper". It is a responsibility being a ref, a sysop, an admin or any other job.

If leaders in the community keep saying "its only a game" while at the same time holding a position of authority, then perhaps they need to re evaluate thier positions or have thier positions re evaluated for them.

For the new pilots coming in then yes it starts as just a game. For those of us who have been around more than 15 minutes ita multi-community and a multi-family enviornment in which we play a game.

To quote a great USHA philosopher  

INTEGRITY!  

There's no gray areas here.

This game is about Integrity and honor by teams and individuals at all times!
USHA_ACTION

More quotes. more evidence that many feel this is not just a game.

I am still mystified at how often and when we use this phrase "its just a game".

Dont do the crime if you cant do the time.

A person can be held criminally liable as an "accessory after the fact" if she has knowledge that a crime was committed and assists the offender to hinder his apprehension, trial or punishment. You can also be guilty of aiding and abetting a crime if you help another person in committing the crime, with knowledge of the criminal nature of the act they're committing.


Additionally, a person who agrees with another person to commit a crime, after which the other person commits a criminal act to further their agreement, may be guilty of conspiracy.

But there are principles of criminal liability that apply to people other than the actual perpetrator of a crime. For example, under federal law there is a crime called "misprision" of a felony, which applies to a person who has actual knowledge of the commission of a felony and doesn't report it to the authorities.

And in the case where an authority does not reveal a crime in which they observed or have knowledge of then they are also subject to "obstruction of justice"

Thats just to start

[H@wk]

As for punishment, naming has been done to most but not all.

For a list of names, go to the Thorn squad list on the CLP.

Bribes? Corrupt cops? Your analogy is way over the top m8. This is a game.

But even tho this is a game, there comes honesty, integrity and self esteem when put in a position of authority regardless what it is.

There will be no respect for anyone that used or even covered up the fact of knowing and not coming forward immediately. It makes the Sysops Squad look like a bunch of thugs protecting each other to the community.

I take it if you give someone your word, you would not honor it? Remember, you have no idea what you are about to be told.

Guilt by association,

You know Temper, I'm beginning to question your judgment, you seem to think this is still a no biggie, there are allot that do, it just hasn't hit yet.

Stop defending the guilty ones and think about the ones that felt and feel raped now, geeze.....

[Commando]

To Err Is Human, To Forgive Devine,,,btw Hawk, when Thorn played TS in the KTF league we never knew about the code

[Vipor]

Attention......new post on uk forums...go have a look!!!

[H@wk]

To Err Is Human, To Forgive Devine,,,btw Hawk, when Thorn played TS in the KTF league we never knew about the code

This has nothing to do with the Leagues now, everything to do with Integrity.

[H@wk]

Attention......new post on uk forums...go have a look!!!

Good boy Vipor,

I had responded to your post and now, as what was stated, my crusade is over.

Now try and make sure there will be law and order in the rooms and no corruption Sysops Vipor.

Cheers

[Firestorm]

Attention......new post on uk forums...go have a look!!!

and I answered it there as well